This is to the product you remember what a decent photocopy is to the original doc. Works like you'd hope but really not quite the same.

I've been a homeowner for 30 years and never used a ballcock. I thought they were obsolete, didn't even understand why home improvement stores still sold them, albeit plastic ones. So this is my first experience with a ballcock.

I got a brand new toilet recently, water efficient. And the new ones are better than the original water efficient ones. Even so, you wish the flush could have a bit more water. I bought from Amazon NUFLUSH extension tubes, which make the fill tube higher so you can put more water in the tank. But, the modern style fill valves adjusted to max leave like 4" from the top.

Well, Nuflush has a solution, a fill valve based on the weight of the weight of the water. Its cute, seems like a fantastic idea. But didn't work worth a crapper. So, I started looking at fill valve options, and the idea of an old fashioned ballcock intrigued! Maybe it could fill closer to the top of the tank. Though I thought the float itself might prevent that. But I also bought from Amazon a Kerick square float. That seemed like it was a more space efficient design for a float. So, I gave this a shot.

While it basically works, here are a couple of things I didn't really like. Since it is solid metal, it isn't adjustable. The only way to adjust the water fill level is to bend the float rod. Also, the water comes on when the tank hasn't been really emptied, it comes on when the float has fallen a few inches. So, you want the float rod as long as possible that will fit in your tank. And to do a complete flush, you need to hold the lever down a few seconds while it is flushing.

Maybe a plastic adjustable ballcock might suit all my requirements better. I don't know.

By the way, it includes a float rod so you don't need to buy one. Amazon suggests you buy one and a float with this. But you only need the float not the rod. (Get the square one, this I totally do recommend if you do get a ballcock.) One other reviewer said the unit is "like American made". I wondered if he meant it really was American made. Nope, made in China. It comes with a plastic bushing that I thought was only for solid lines, not for flexible lines. I was wrong, you need to use the bushing for flexible lines too. Some user complained it never fully shuts off. I did not have that problem. It does fully shut off. But, the last little bit before full shut off, it trickles and takes a minute. The tank fills very quickly 95%. Then the last 5% trickles until final shutoff.

The media could not be loaded. 8 people in my house so the communal toilets are high traffic. I went through 2 standard plastic fillers. 2 fast flows. And kept chewing up the threads with my bidet connector (that's metal).

So metal into metal now. Very tight, no leaks. This thing is a beast, very well made, sturdy, standard threads. It's almost a pleasure to watch the toilet fill 😄 Much faster than the old fast flow. It's insanely quick.

You have to bend the bar to adjust the level, but that's not hard with pliers. It DOES NOT come with a float, but that's all standard thread size. Hardware store 🤷"â'‚ï¸

Shuts off no issue, doesn't run when it's not supposed to.

Worked perfectly when i added the copper float.

For some reason my house water is especially hard on toilet valves. I have been through 4 plastic toilet valves in the last 2 years. Mostly they have been various models of Fluidmaster, hoping that the next model up would be the one that would work for a length of time. The last one lasted just 6 weeks, causing water hammer (knocking) in the pipes, and eventually the top valve not shutting off. Initially inexpensive, but you get what you pay for in the long run.

I decided to go back old school with this LDR brass model. There was fast delivery by LDR. The product itself is all brass construction, substantial, simple design. Installation was fairly straight forward. I did use the rubber tank seal washer from the previous plastic valve, and the outer plastic hand tighten nut. You do need to purchase the plastic "ball" float ($6-7) at your local hardware store, and bend the supplied ball control arm to correct the water filling height inside the tank. The suggestion listed here of using 1/4-20 brass nuts on both ends of the arm to lock the control arm in the down position after bending was a good one.

Initially, this seems to be a product that does it job well. Love the slow cutoff of the valve as the tank fills, which means no water hammer (knocking). I'm getting a complete valve cutoff with no leaking.

With my house's water profile I'd like to keep a supply of O-rings handy, but cannot find a parts list, or size for the internal replacement components. I've emailed LDR for more information. I'll update this review when/if it happens